Heritage Night: Current Events

There has been a lot of stuff happening in Cavern lately and I would like to take this Heritage Night to talk about such things.

The most obvious thing that has happened is the recent ‘vault wipe’ in which all player information was lost. This is a sad blow for all those affected, especially those with a large amount of history with the game.

This isn’t the first time such a thing has happened and long-time explorers will remember that all account data was lost when the GameTap (2007) MOUla was closed down. Some of the shards have also had ‘vault wipes’ when some reconfiguration was needed.

Cyan learned an important lesson. Cyan had a poor backup plan and never tested their backups (which were corrupt). If they weren’t corrupt, there would still be some loss as Cyan’s latest backups were from a lot earlier in the year.

We can learn something feom Cyan. It’s important to have a good backup system and to make frequent backups. Making sure your backups can be restored is also important. Even if you use your computer very little, things can still go wrong and a backup is better than starting over. If you want to talk more about backups, I will be available after the speech.

Back to the ‘vault wipe’ itself. Fans came up with funny IC explanations to pass the time, including time machines gone wrong and a metaphysical wave‘ sent by a faction of the Bahro War (a fight between Bahro who want us to leave the cavern and those who want to stay). My personal favourite explanation for current events is:

OHB’s arch-nemesis tried to hack the Great Zero into a mind-control device. It backfired and he wiped everyone’s memories, reset the Kis, and reset the ages (somehow) instead.

There is one more separate recent event semi-ignored because of the vault wipe. Before the wipe, Cyan stated that they were working with fans to finally get new content into the game. They originally intended to release this new content at the end of the year. I have heard nothing new on this front recently, but I imagine increased work on the Obduction game and the vault wipe has pushed the project aside a bit. I hope we hear more about this soon.

Before I take questions, the last bit of news is that Cyan has cut a deal with a TV company and a Myst TV show is in the works. You can join the discussion here: http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=27515 and read more here: http://venturebeat.com/2014/10/07/cyan-cuts-deal-with-legendary-to-create-a-tv-series-based-on-myst/

Here is the log for the Q&A part of the event:

(11/16 15:27:07) Chat.log started…
(11/16 15:27:10)  CHAKRA: ty… so this ‘tv show’ is it a series or a mini series or one time epidsode?
(11/16 15:27:36)  HeritageNightGuy: Hmm I don’t know, let me see
(11/16 15:27:47) HeritageNightGuy goes off to Google the answer
(11/16 15:28:12)  Boywhith: It is way too much for I single episode I think.
(11/16 15:28:37)  CHAKRA: Also, curious .. Who is the tv company who picked Cyan up>?
(11/16 15:28:37)  radioflux: depends on the story they want to tell
(11/16 15:28:51)  CHAKRA: depends on money!
(11/16 15:28:53)  Zeke365: Lenderay
(11/16 15:28:56)  radioflux: Legendary
(11/16 15:29:34)  Musica2: Couldn’t the deal be with a production company and they will have to sell it to a TV network?
(11/16 15:29:34)  radioflux: but not the movie branch; the TV branch of Legendary
(11/16 15:29:36)  Zeke365: i kind of have an idea of how it will work it a transamedia tv show
(11/16 15:29:39)  skuavi: first episode early days in dni :)
(11/16 15:29:44)  CHAKRA: excuse me? legendary is the name of the tv production company?
(11/16 15:29:55)  radioflux: yes
(11/16 15:29:59)  Boywhith: I agree CHAKRA. I still wonder if this is a real plan or only a nice thought.
(11/16 15:30:03)  CHAKRA: Ok great! and ty
(11/16 15:30:13)  skuavi: make the new godzila legendary?
(11/16 15:30:29)  HeritageNightGuy: I’m back, I don’t think we know wather it will be mini-serries or full serries or whatever
(11/16 15:30:31)  Boywhith: We all know what hapened to that movie plans… nothing!
(11/16 15:30:38)  Boywhith: *happened
(11/16 15:30:55)  radioflux: yes, so we’ll just have to wait and see
(11/16 15:31:08)  HeritageNightGuy: Accoding to Wikepida Cyan had a deal for a Myst TV show back in 2002 that also ‘fell through’
(11/16 15:31:23)  CHAKRA: @boywhith…. has potential to make it all the way to ‘airing’ or the project being cancelled for unseen reasons
(11/16 15:31:30)  HeritageNightGuy: I wonder how many people would donate for a Myst Movie/TV show kickstarter
(11/16 15:31:31)  Zeke365: So with the valt wipe recently do you think that is a good thing or bad thing?
(11/16 15:31:32)  Boywhith: You see? That is 12 years ago!
(11/16 15:31:59)  CHAKRA: I feel your pain Boywhith LOL
(11/16 15:32:04)  radioflux: par for the course with those movie deals
(11/16 15:32:10)  CHAKRA: I remember it all too well also.
(11/16 15:32:17)  HeritageNightGuy: The vault wipe is a bad thing and it did not help any sever problems either :(
(11/16 15:32:50)  Boywhith: and CAVCON is allarming low… 1.4 now.
(11/16 15:32:59)  HeritageNightGuy: It is indeed
(11/16 15:33:05)  CHAKRA: Well, I hope it comes to fruition and! is a great success, so we can open source this with the abundance of monies the tv show can produce and add new content.
(11/16 15:33:08)  Zeke365: But we have had a lot more explores in though the Cavcon really needs to get up there
(11/16 15:33:13)  radioflux: Personally, I loved having to do the entire game again
(11/16 15:33:20)  HeritageNightGuy: Donating would be a good thing
(11/16 15:33:40)  HeritageNightGuy: But there a couple of more importnat things I might want to donate too
(11/16 15:33:45)  Jet Blast: I do it
(11/16 15:33:45)  Boywhith: yeah in a way it was a good thing to start over again.
(11/16 15:33:52)  CHAKRA: I have been thru the prior ‘resets’ so no big deal redoing the Journey.
(11/16 15:33:55)  HeritageNightGuy: I wish we had donation insentives
(11/16 15:33:55)  skuavi: good evening jet
(11/16 15:33:55)  Zeke365: What the best way to to aproch donating without panicking explorers?
(11/16 15:34:33)  Boywhith: i think Cyan must again do a Kickstarter campaign.
(11/16 15:34:48)  HeritageNightGuy: We need some sort of insentive like OHBs connection imnage
(11/16 15:34:48)  CHAKRA: I would suggest Zeke… sharing the donation instructions on the forums that RAWA gives.
(11/16 15:35:03)  CHAKRA: Just share the link with others Zeke.
(11/16 15:35:04)  Boywhith: and try to collect funds to keep MOULa running for at least 2 years, including…
(11/16 15:35:04)  HeritageNightGuy: brb
(11/16 15:35:17)  Boywhith: The promise of new cotent.
(11/16 15:35:22)  Boywhith: *content.
(11/16 15:35:26)  Zeke365: Ya were almost at 5 years
(11/16 15:36:05)  CHAKRA: There will always be the promise to fulfill dreams.
(11/16 15:36:13)  HeritageNightGuy: Back
(11/16 15:36:20)  CHAKRA: Doesn’t mean they will happen overnight tho…..
(11/16 15:36:28)  CHAKRA: We ALL have been waiting……
(11/16 15:36:37)  CHAKRA: remember…..
(11/16 15:36:44)  HeritageNightGuy: We could ask Cyan if an explorer like OHB cfould run a robot
(11/16 15:36:48)  CHAKRA: the ending has yet to be written.
(11/16 15:37:07)  HeritageNightGuy: Then set up a ‘hal of fame’ hood if you donate over $20 to MOULa you get your name on the hoods imager
(11/16 15:37:07)  Zeke365: i have gone back and forth and weather new content is what uru needs yes some but what really needs is its community
(11/16 15:37:14)  HeritageNightGuy: This is controlled by the roboto
(11/16 15:37:20)  CHAKRA: We have a lot of robots in the cavern now…. just sayin’
(11/16 15:37:31)  Jet Blast: Ok,Igive 10 more yet
(11/16 15:37:35)  HeritageNightGuy: Robots are useufl
(11/16 15:37:39)  Jet Blast: Brb
(11/16 15:37:41)  Zeke365: Would that event cost even more
(11/16 15:37:48)  Boywhith: hehehe… I like a statute for $200 !
(11/16 15:37:55)  CHAKRA: robots can be useful…. and glitchy too
(11/16 15:38:05)  HeritageNightGuy: We can’t do anything that will cost Cyan money
(11/16 15:38:08)  CHAKRA: LOL@boy
(11/16 15:38:24)  HeritageNightGuy: But you could donate to MOULa and get a statue on the gehn shard if the admins where ok with that
(11/16 15:38:46)  HeritageNightGuy: Adding content to MOULa will cost Cyan money
(11/16 15:39:10)  HeritageNightGuy: I think we need to run a PBS style capain!
(11/16 15:39:20)  Boywhith: i am not a fan of those shards… The nice things there…
(11/16 15:39:23)  Zeke365: Last noevmenber we hit 4.9
(11/16 15:39:30)  Boywhith: Must be intergrated into MOULa.
(11/16 15:40:02)  HeritageNightGuy: The game is rather limmited in what we can do with it
(11/16 15:40:06)  CHAKRA: Last Nov. the login numbers were almost double too.
(11/16 15:40:12)  CHAKRA: Numbers have fallen ….
(11/16 15:40:18)  HeritageNightGuy: Interesting
(11/16 15:40:31)  HeritageNightGuy: Well there might be worse next month with holidays :(
(11/16 15:40:33)  Zeke365: Throuh limitaions come creativity
(11/16 15:40:38)  CHAKRA: Which means …. we need to donate double!
(11/16 15:40:56)  Zeke365: i will as soon as I can
(11/16 15:41:02)  CHAKRA: I was here when the cavern closed down due to lack of funding.
(11/16 15:41:09)  CHAKRA: It was terribly sad day.
(11/16 15:41:27)  Musica2: Yes, it was sad
(11/16 15:41:31)  Zeke365: it amazing this community keeps poping up
(11/16 15:41:34)  Boywhith: not to say, a disaster! :(((
(11/16 15:41:49)  CHAKRA: Cate quit and we lost the one person who was in charge of seeking funding.
(11/16 15:42:28)  CHAKRA: The DRC had all returned to the surface or quit.  We basically were left on our own.
(11/16 15:42:39)  Zeke365: i m looking forward to DIRT project as well
(11/16 15:42:56)  CHAKRA: After Ensberg’s daughter died,…. things started falling apart in the cavern.
(11/16 15:43:06)  Zeke365: Expect for a few reseng
(11/16 15:43:09)  HeritageNightGuy: I’m offstage now since I’m now an equal vs (in-carge)
(11/16 15:43:29) From CHAKRA: kool
(11/16 15:43:33)  Musica2: That wasn’t in the script
(11/16 15:44:00)  CHAKRA: This tv thingie that’s ‘in the works’ could be what saves the cavern.
(11/16 15:44:31)  CHAKRA: If it doesn’t suceed…. well, it’s up to the (us) explorers to keep the journey alive.
(11/16 15:44:43)  HeritageNightGuy: Cyan’s for profit work does not mix with it’s private work and even has it’s own bank account
(11/16 15:45:10)  CHAKRA: Cyan worlds you mean?
(11/16 15:45:20)  CHAKRA: which cyan?
(11/16 15:45:31)  HeritageNightGuy: Same company diffrent time in it’s life
(11/16 15:45:44)  CHAKRA: sister company
(11/16 15:46:08) skuavi looks around for a bit
(11/16 15:46:15)  Zeke365: Listen everyone should have gotten a ki mail telling the time of appreaction party which you can show your appreaction there and that will be sent to cyan
(11/16 15:46:17)  CHAKRA: I thought there was going to be a Heritage tour today?
(11/16 15:46:19)  HeritageNightGuy: I still say we need instives to donate(or at lest I do)
(11/16 15:46:33)  CHAKRA: instives?
(11/16 15:46:38)  CHAKRA: what is that?
(11/16 15:46:42)  spatialkay: incentivew
(11/16 15:46:49)  CHAKRA: incentives
(11/16 15:46:49)  spatialkay: incentives
(11/16 15:46:56)  HeritageNightGuy: incentives
(11/16 15:46:57)  skuavi: incentivos
(11/16 15:47:08)  HeritageNightGuy: Like OHBs thing
(11/16 15:47:34)  HeritageNightGuy: Or getting your name in a fan-fic or on an imager somewhere
(11/16 15:47:50)  Boywhith: we need transparancy. Whe we donate now, it is like trowing money in a dark pit.
(11/16 15:48:21)  Zeke365: I do the Cavern Tours on tuseday nights at 22:00ki time and Larry does one saturday at 9:00ki time
(11/16 15:48:48)  HeritageNightGuy: Or something really cool to do that makes people think.. oh wow I want to keep playing that game
(11/16 15:48:52)  CHAKRA: Wish I could attend your Zeke, but too late for me.
(11/16 15:49:04)  HeritageNightGuy: I have the same problem
(11/16 15:49:13)  radioflux: The Saturday tours are great as well
(11/16 15:49:16)  Zeke365: then you go to larry right
(11/16 15:49:25)  HeritageNightGuy: You know I could probally a tour myself but I don’t know what to say
(11/16 15:49:31)  CHAKRA: I did attend Larry’s thought… and had a lot of fun!
(11/16 15:49:57)  HeritageNightGuy: I could do a sort of LP though the ages if that intrests anyone
(11/16 15:50:04)  HeritageNightGuy: *through
(11/16 15:50:06)  skuavi: wb patricio
(11/16 15:50:14)  Zeke365: LP?
(11/16 15:50:23)  Patricio: Hola sku.
(11/16 15:50:24)  radioflux: or CD?
(11/16 15:50:27)  CHAKRA: live presentation?
(11/16 15:50:31)  HeritageNightGuy: Let’s Play/Long Play
(11/16 15:50:37)  CHAKRA: ohhhhhhhh
(11/16 15:50:41)  Boywhith: MP3… lol
(11/16 15:50:43)  skuavi: mp3
(11/16 15:50:46)  Musica2: The Radio Free D’NI guys are broadcasting next Sunady and having a donation time after
(11/16 15:51:01)  Zeke365: that something I condsidered but rejected it maybe a trailer at least
(11/16 15:51:02)  radioflux: Ok, I’m off to donate Right Now
(11/16 15:51:08) CHAKRA dislikes language barriers.
(11/16 15:51:14)  radioflux: see you guys around
(11/16 15:51:17)  Patricio: My pay pal is all set now!
(11/16 15:51:19)  HeritageNightGuy: There is a style of Youtbue video where people commintate over games(called a ‘Let’s Play)
(11/16 15:51:30)  HeritageNightGuy: Se you around radioflux
(11/16 15:51:50)  CHAKRA: Aren’t there 3 ways to donate?
(11/16 15:51:54)  HeritageNightGuy: Annways I could do a tour where I would comminate on things around the ages
(11/16 15:51:58)  Zeke365: I know but I think of this way people might just wait for the lets play then coming on the tours
(11/16 15:52:03)  CHAKRA: If one doesn’t want to pay the paypal fees?
(11/16 15:52:04)  Boywhith: There is alreay a LP MOULa on youtube… 100 movies in total!
(11/16 15:52:21)  Boywhith: *already
(11/16 15:52:24)  HeritageNightGuy: Yes this would be a live commintary by microphone
(11/16 15:52:27)  Zeke365: if you can dontate double do so lets save our little home
(11/16 15:52:39)  Jet Blast: ok, a new donation,is done.bye see you soon
(11/16 15:52:49)  HeritageNightGuy: See you Jet Blast
(11/16 15:53:06)  CHAKRA: wow Jet Blast really IS Jet Blast! hahahahahah
(11/16 15:53:16)  Piri 919: yeah
(11/16 15:53:49)  HeritageNightGuy: Jet Blast sounds like a nicname for Sonic The Headgehog
(11/16 15:54:02)  CHAKRA: HNG…. you in the USA?
(11/16 15:54:29)  skuavi: my nick name is like a pokemon?
(11/16 15:54:32)  CHAKRA: if so would be nice to have a tour in the middle of Larry and Zeke’s tours… for accessibility
(11/16 15:54:50)  HeritageNightGuy: I am Canadian
(11/16 15:54:54)  CHAKRA: Larry’s is early morning
(11/16 15:54:54) Zeke365 dont forget to check out some of the events in the Cavem Events hood
(11/16 15:55:00)  CHAKRA: Zekes is late
(11/16 15:55:02)  spatialkay: honorary yank
(11/16 15:55:10)  CHAKRA: what time zone you in HNG?
(11/16 15:55:25)  Zeke365: sorry not possible we do not have the man power to that
(11/16 15:55:43)  HeritageNightGuy: Easertern Daylight Time(UTC -05:00)
(11/16 15:55:55)  Zeke365: 9:00ki time is 11:00am EST
(11/16 15:56:13)  CHAKRA: right Zeke
(11/16 15:56:43)  HeritageNightGuy: 13 Ki time is 3:00 PM for me
(11/16 15:56:46)  CHAKRA: some folks sleep in on Saturday mornings or is there only day to run errands etc
(11/16 15:56:47)  Boywhith: So 2 hours later than the KI time. Here it is 8 hours.
(11/16 15:57:13)  Zeke365: while back I tried to get a Euprooean community tour together byut it fell threw do to lack of interst
(11/16 15:57:14)  CHAKRA: I am +1  KI time
(11/16 15:57:32)  CHAKRA: bummer Zeke
(11/16 15:57:57)  CHAKRA: you in UK Boy?
(11/16 15:58:12)  Zeke365: its more like this people had interst but none wanted to help or wanted to but did not know how
(11/16 15:58:13)  Boywhith: No, The Netherlands.
(11/16 15:58:35)  CHAKRA: Brrr Boy lol
(11/16 15:58:37)  Zeke365: no offensise to anyone
(11/16 15:58:48)  CHAKRA: no offense take Zeke :)
(11/16 15:59:13)  Zeke365: I hope that explains the situation better
(11/16 15:59:20)  CHAKRA: I have planned events years ago and got a lot of positive feedback.. but then at time of event, very few actually showed.
(11/16 15:59:42)  Boywhith: Brrr? We have a nice climate.
(11/16 15:59:51)  CHAKRA: My ‘Wonderland’ party was my greatest success though.
(11/16 16:00:02)  Musica2: Yesterday I hunted for a Delin to go to, but it’
(11/16 16:00:04)  Zeke365: Avertiscement is your best soruse AGM, fourms, pming people
(11/16 16:00:12)  Musica2: It’s not winter yet
(11/16 16:00:12)  CHAKRA: You just never know when you plan an event…..
(11/16 16:00:40)  CHAKRA: Miranna’s hood has Delin
(11/16 16:01:08)  CHAKRA: yep Zeke… dissemination is key.
(11/16 16:01:20)  CHAKRA: It’s snowing here.
(11/16 16:01:34)  Zeke365: bur I know what that like
(11/16 16:01:44)  Boywhith: We had rain the whole day today, and mild, around 10 degrees.
(11/16 16:01:44)  HeritageNightGuy: I’m in the GTA(Otario, Cananda) and it was snowing this morning :(
(11/16 16:02:06)  Boywhith: I love snow!
(11/16 16:02:12)  CHAKRA: Snow is pretty.  As long as you don’ t   have to go anywhere. ;’ )
(11/16 16:02:24)  Zeke365: snowcones anyone?
(11/16 16:02:31)  CHAKRA: lol
(11/16 16:02:31)  HeritageNightGuy: It’s still cloady so I fear over the air TV reciption won’t be that good and there is a 2-hour special I hav to watch
(11/16 16:02:52)  Myown Evil Twin: i used to like snow, now its just cold and wet
(11/16 16:03:12)  Boywhith: So far we have had a record mild year.
(11/16 16:03:33)  Zeke365: well I m taking off see ya
(11/16 16:03:55)  HeritageNightGuy: Oh my here sounded like he was in watter too me
(11/16 16:04:00)  HeritageNightGuy: *he
(11/16 16:04:01)  CHAKRA: I guess this is as good a time as any…. PPOOOOFF!!!!
(11/16 16:04:11)  HeritageNightGuy: Yes you can leave whenver
(11/16 16:04:11)  CHAKRA (I’m on the surface, be back in a minute):
(11/16 16:04:12)  Zeke365 (I’m on the surface, be back in a minute):
(11/16 16:04:14) …Chat.log stopped.

Happy Halloween!

Hey all, Calum here!

Just dropping by here to wish you all a Happy Halloween down in the Cavern! Watch out for Skeletons!! 0______0

C.O and Cavecon meters

Hello. Tonight, I’m going to talk about ‘The CAVECON and C.O. meters’. Near the end of MOUL(2007), a chart called the ‘C.O. meter’ was devised by RAWA to let people know how likely cancellation would be. This meter [seen here: http://web.archive.org/web/20111203160514/http://www.drcsite.org/images/drcco.jpg], has 5 levels with ‘severe’ at the top and ‘low’ at the bottom. It was called the ‘Cautious Optimism Advisory System’ (or C.O meter for short). The idea of ‘Cautious Optimism’ was that there was a chance of Cyan receiving the funding they needed (optimism). This may not happen so people shouldn’t get too excited.(caution).

So now on to the CAVECON meter. The CAVECON readouts can be found here:http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25172. Now, if you haven’t heard, this game is paid for by fan donations. Cyan refuses to give actual monetary figures. Instead, they invented a 5-level system to measure how well donations are covering expenses on a month-by-month basis. This 5-level system is the CAVECON. Level 5 is the best and level 1 is the worst.

So, to elaborate, CAVECON 3 means expenses are equal to donations; 2 means they are below expenses and 4 means they are above. When donations are at 4, they are cached for slower times. When at level 2, the cache is used to pay for expenses.

Levels 5 and 1 are extreme: 1 means that the cache is empty and the cavern is in danger of closure. 5 means Cyan is ready to add content to the game. We’ve never reached 5 and we can’t reach 5 if Cyan is not willing to add new content. Right now, they’re working on their new game, Obduction, so it’s unlikely we will reach CAVECON 5 even if there is enough funding to do so.

To add clarity, a second digit (after a decimal point) was added. This represents how close donations are to reaching the goal (which for each month is CAVECON 3). So .3 means 30% funded to the 3.0 goal, 0.1 means 10%, etc. When CAVECON 4 is reached, the decimal represents how much extra money is in the cache. In this case, .3 means funding is 130% and .1 means funding is 110%.

So, hopefully, you now have an understanding of the CAVECON. The current ratings can be found here: URL If not, I will try to answer any questions you might have. I will put up a Q&A section at http://heritagenight.wordpress.com/. But first, if you would like to donate to MOULa, you do so at: http://mystonline.com/en/donate/


Q: How much should we donate?

A: You should donate what you can.

Q: Why won’t Cyan give actual dollar/cents figures?

A: They don’t want people to feel obligated to donate.

Q: Does all of my donation goes towards MOULa?

A: It does. They have a separate bank account specifically for MOULa.

Q: Do large yearly sums work better than monthly?

A: I believe monthly is preferred since Cyan is billed for the server monthly. So a big yearly sum only helps them out for a few months.

Q: What if I can’t donate?

A: Then the game is still free for you. Maybe you can find something else useful to do around cavern.

Q: Are donations tax-deductible?

A: No, sorry they are not.

Q: How can I donate and where do I do so?

A: Info and donations can be found here: http://mystonline.com/en/donate/

Lighting The Lake

Shorah, all! Today, I’m going to be talking about ‘Lighting the Lake’. Before we begin, is everyone familiar with the pellet-baking machine in Er’cana?

If not, let me give some background. There is an oven in one of the ages that allows the user to bake a sausage-shaped log which we call a ‘pellet’. When a pellet is dropped into a pool of water, it will produce some light. How much light you get depends on what settings you use http://heritagenight.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/1401/to bake the pellet. You can either drop the pellet into a Borah cave or a pool of water in A’gura.

In 2007, it was discovered that ‘well baked’ pellets dropped in the Agura pool of water actually affected the lake and this would eventually make the lake brighter. This is due to luminescent algae in the water, which, as far as I know, has died since the fall of D’ni.

So a project was started to light the lake to its maximum brightness, since a brighter lake would also effect the brightness of the cavern. At that time, someone at the DRC installed a funny machine at the docs. It’s supposed to measure the lake light, but it’s broken somehow and so was later removed.

I will take questions at this time, and then Stone5 will adjust the lake brightness leavals so you can see how bright and dark they go. This can only be done in the hood. Then we can go to the city to see the lake brightness measuring device.

The Q&A is bellow:

(07/26 15:06:02)  Magic Ro’: TOC has a working Lake Light Meter
(07/26 15:06:09)  Jamie Marchant: That’s cool :)
(07/26 15:06:16)  Malim Praedari: Where will the chatlog b published
(07/26 15:06:18)  Jamie Marchant: I haven’t been on TOC for a while
(07/26 15:06:22)  Malim Praedari: I will have to leave soon
(07/26 15:06:30)  Magic Ro’: It’s in COD
(07/26 15:06:42)  Jamie Marchant: Yes which reminds me all the Q&A will be in the chatlog
(07/26 15:06:59)  Jamie Marchant: The thing I just read to you will be on the Heritage Night blog latter
(07/26 15:07:05)  Malim Praedari: What is cod?
(07/26 15:07:27)  radioflux: City of Dimensions
(07/26 15:07:31)  Magic Ro’: City of D…. forgot how to spell it
(07/26 15:07:34)  Magic Ro’: TY
(07/26 15:07:41)  Jamie Marchant: I belive COD is the city of demistionts, an altertive city in the The Open Cave shard
(07/26 15:07:43)  Malim Praedari: Ok, but what is the link
(07/26 15:08:07)  Jamie Marchant: I belive if you have an account on The Open Cave you can get there for free
(07/26 15:08:08)  Magic Ro’: use   /cod
(07/26 15:08:12)  Magic Ro’: or the Nexus
(07/26 15:08:24)  radioflux: http://www.the-open-cave.net ???
(07/26 15:08:31)  Magic Ro’: yes
(07/26 15:08:38)  Malim Praedari: No i thik we are misunderstanding
(07/26 15:08:43)  Zeke365: So does this machine of brightnees effect the cavcon any way?
(07/26 15:08:46)  Malim Praedari: what is the link to the chat log
(07/26 15:08:55)  radioflux: heh
(07/26 15:08:55)  Jamie Marchant: No it only measures it.
(07/26 15:09:27)  Zeke365: What was it mesuring for other than brightness?
(07/26 15:09:30)  Jamie Marchant: by right back
(07/26 15:09:53)  Magic Ro’: The very same lake machine can be see at the Dock  with Magic Treasure
(07/26 15:10:08)  Mcbeam: hello?
(07/26 15:10:15)  Zeke365: Hello
(07/26 15:10:15)  Malim Praedari: Hello mcbeam
(07/26 15:10:23)  Jamie Marchant: Sorry about that my internal client got messed up
(07/26 15:10:24) Magic Ro’ says okay
(07/26 15:10:28)  Jamie Marchant: Ok any other questionts?
(07/26 15:10:28)  Mcbeam: where for art ?
(07/26 15:10:39)  Jamie Marchant: where for art?
(07/26 15:10:48)  Magic Ro’: where for art thou
(07/26 15:10:49)  Mcbeam: everybody?
(07/26 15:11:01)  Jamie Marchant: Where upstairs
(07/26 15:11:03)  Stone: Jamy can correct mebut i thin you can find mst of the chat logs and info here….    https://heritagenight.wordpress.com
(07/26 15:11:08)  Zeke365: Was there another purpose for the machine other than brightness of the pellets?
(07/26 15:11:15)  Stone: Jamie     sorry^
(07/26 15:11:16)  Malim Praedari: ok thank you
(07/26 15:11:23)  Mcbeam: oops sorry
(07/26 15:11:43)  Jamie Marchant: The machine by the docs?
(07/26 15:11:49)  Magic Ro’: doesn’t it supply air to the divers?
(07/26 15:11:55)  Zeke365: Yes and why it broke?
(07/26 15:12:03)  Jamie Marchant: Maybe, hold on a moment
(07/26 15:12:28)  Jamie Marchant: The drc site is still down :(
(07/26 15:13:04)  Jamie Marchant: They had a really good thread on the matter but I did not have accass to it when writing my script
(07/26 15:13:30)  Jamie Marchant: Also it’s a lot harder to find good info on Myst stuff with MystLore down :(
(07/26 15:13:38)  Jamie Marchant: Any other questionts
(07/26 15:13:39)  Stone: is it in the waybackmachine
(07/26 15:13:40)  Malim Praedari: what was the intention of it’s function if it did work, did it have lights and a meter to indicate brightnes?
(07/26 15:13:51)  Jamie Marchant: Oh yeah good thinking Stone
(07/26 15:13:54)  Malim Praedari: some sort of indication
(07/26 15:14:04)  Jamie Marchant: I forgot about that when doing my script :(
(07/26 15:14:20)  Magic Ro’: I only see 1s and 0s on the working machine.
(07/26 15:14:34)  Jamie Marchant: That’s kind of the reason I diden’t want to do 07 stuff as there is a lot of reasearch todo since I was never there

I didn’t think of taking a screen shot of the brighter lake but here is the thing by the lake:

Hertiage Night: Memoryable Threads Speach

[Links to the threads I talked about can be found at the bottom or this post.]

This is what I said at Heritage Night:

Hello, and welcome once again to Heritage Night. Today’s topic is ‘memorable forum threads.’ Now for those of you who don’t know, the forums for this game can be found here: http://mystonline.com/forums. I suggest you check it out. The Myst Online forums were started in 2007 along with the first incarnation of “Myst Online Uru Live.

Over the years, there have been a number of noteworthy threads on the forums. The community and moderators have selected a list of their favourite threads. The name of this thread is ‘Memorable Thread Collection’; it’s found in the Information & Resource Center. Don’t worry because I will give all the URLs on the Heritage Night blog at heritagenight.wordpress.com.

Starting off, I’d like to talk about the ‘Is it More Yet?’ thread. To understand this thread, you have to know what MORE is. MORE or Myst Online Restoration Experiment was a proposal by Cyan to continue URU after the talks of cancellation in 2007. The proposal included new content, easy-to-use tools to allow people to make content, and the return to Cavern for free. While waiting for MORE, people starting ‘writing’ this thread. The thread is 140 pages long and became very silly, which is what made it memorable. The thread was locked around the time when MOULa came out, probably since MOULa (though NOT MORE) is a good enough substitute. I suggest you read a bit of the thread, but it’s not necessary to read through the whole thing. It’s interesting to see how silly a bunch of fans of a very serious game can be.

Ki toons – this a very memorable thread. A user made a bunch of comics (like one finds in the Saturday morning paper) about Cavern life. It’s only 21 pages (mostly comments of how amazing it is) and is definitely worth a look. Though I have to point out that some of the cartoons have minor spoilers and some,

This is what I said at Heritage Night:

Hello, and welcome once again to Heritage Night. Today’s topic is ‘memorable forum threads.’ Now for those of you who don’t know, the forums for this game can be found here: http://mystonline.com/forums. I suggest you check it out. The Myst Online forums were started in 2007 along with the first incarnation of “Myst Online Uru Live.

Over the years, there have been a number of noteworthy threads on the forums. The community and moderators have selected a list of their favourite threads. The name of this thread is ‘Memorable Thread Collection’; it’s found in the Information & Resource Center. Don’t worry because I will give all the URLs on the Heritage Night blog at heritagenight.wordpress.com.

Starting off, I’d like to talk about the ‘Is it More Yet?’ thread. To understand this thread, you have to know what MORE is. MORE or Myst Online Restoration Experiment was a proposal by Cyan to continue URU after the talks of cancellation in 2007. The proposal included new content, easy-to-use tools to allow people to make content, and the return to Cavern for free. While waiting for MORE, people starting ‘writing’ this thread. The thread is 140 pages long and became very silly, which is what made it memorable. The thread was locked around the time when MOULa came out, probably since MOULa (though NOT MORE) is a good enough substitute. I suggest you read a bit of the thread, but it’s not necessary to read through the whole thing. It’s interesting to see how silly a bunch of fans of a very serious game can be.

Ki toons – this a very memorable thread. A user made a bunch of comics (like one finds in the Saturday morning paper) about Cavern life. It’s only 21 pages (mostly comments of how amazing it is) and is definitely worth a look. Though I have to point out that some of the cartoons have minor spoilers and some, sadly, only make sense if you know the 2007 history, but it’s still worth the look.

BOMB in the CITY! Help deactivate it! – earlier this year, I talked about OHB and the BOMB. As a refresher, OHB put one of his ‘robots’ in the cavern who threatened to blow it up. It was up to explorers to solve a puzzle and save the day. The puzzle was posted in this thread. Now it was really fun to see it unfold, but I’m sure it would also be fun to read over. It’s only 9 pages, plus you can try and solve the puzzle before reading the solution.

There are a lot of threads I could put on this list, but only so much time, so I will now talk about three threads with a similar ‘theme’, telling a story.

Surprise in Minkata – The user, Norfren, has made a sort of interactive story. He posts a narration post, followed by ‘player’ posts requesting what to do. Each of Norfren’s posts is accompanied by a high quality render of the age. Throughout the story, hidden stuff is found in the age Minkata. (I won’t say what and spoil the surprise). This story is 67 pages long. While in college, I bookmarked my spot and read through the whole thing during 10 minute breaks. I would read a narration section, decide what I would do, and skip forward to the next narration section. It’s definitely worth your time. Also, there were a couple of interactive sections at the end. After reading through it, I wished that I could make 3D render so I could make my own story. :(

‘Beyond Teladen’ is another story thread (also with its own renders). The author, Guybrush Threepwood, takes us to new, unexplored areas of Teladen. It was in the same vein as ‘Surprise in Minkata’. Unfortunately, Guybrush has gotten busy and the story has ended in the middle.

I didn’t have a forum account in 2007, so I could not participate in ‘Surprise in Minkata,’ but I did participate in ‘Beyond Teladen.’ I had so much fun that I wished it would go on. Later, I realized that I could tell my own story, a text adventure, so I don’t have to make any 3d renders[models]  :). I did this when I wrote ‘Myst: the comedy text-adventure’.

Myst: the comedy text-adventure – This thread is very memorable as well as very funny. The party is sent on a quest to find five crystals, located in five very unique ages. Why a comedy, you might ask. The answer is: since it’s different, fun, and a bit easier (since not everything has to make sense :)) . By the way, my text-adventures made me interested in telling stories, which is one of the things that lead me to taking over Heritage Night.(but I will talk more about that in a future Heritage Night).

Well, that’s it for memorable threads for now. Thanks for listening and thank you and your neighbours for making threads that are memorable in the first place! I will take questions in a moment, but first some bad news related to Heritage Night. At the last AGM, I talked about a ‘play idea’ I had, but the announcement was a bit premature. I hadn’t actually looked at the opening of MOUL(2007), but now that I have and I’ve found that it’s not good (exciting) material for what I want to do.  I’ve shelved the idea for now, sorry. Also, I am a bit busy in the next couple of weeks with ‘summer stuff’, so there may not be a July Heritage Night, as my next event is another ‘Hood Of Illusions’ one.

Ok, at this time, I will take questions now before my BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!

(06/28 15:27:55) Chat.log started…
(06/28 15:28:02)  Acorn1: I asked who the artist was for the comics
(06/28 15:28:07)  JamieWithHNKey: Ok se I will be recoding this part for the blog.
(06/28 15:28:40)  JamieWithHNKey: The KiToons where drawn by Thend.
(06/28 15:28:48)  Acorn1: Thank you
(06/28 15:28:50)  JamieWithHNKey: Any other questionts?
(06/28 15:28:59)  Boywhith: I repeat mine…
(06/28 15:29:00)  radioflux: I love the ‘Mysterious Mynds’ threads
(06/28 15:29:10)  radioflux: great storytelling
(06/28 15:29:24)  Boywhith: You will give the links where we can find these stories?
(06/28 15:29:25)  JamieWithHNKey: I seem to have miseed your question Boywith
(06/28 15:30:16)  JamieWithHNKey: The stories are all on the Myst Online forums, I will give all the links on the Hertiage Night blog: heritagenight.wordpress.com.
(06/28 15:30:42)  JamieWithHNKey: Any other questionts?
(06/28 15:30:46)  Boywhith: Thank you! The are some many bloggs..
(06/28 15:31:09)  Boywhith: sometimes you can’t see the forest because of the trees…
(06/28 15:31:15)  JamieWithHNKey: True :)
(06/28 15:31:28)  Acorn1: just a comment: your comedy adventure was what got me posting on the forums, Jamie
(06/28 15:31:55)  Acorn1: i was reading it and seeing people fail to pick up the clues that I HAD to join in!
(06/28 15:32:10)  JamieWithHNKey: Yes you’ve told me that before, that’s cool to hear!
(06/28 15:32:29)  JamieWithHNKey: Also Hertiage Night is mentioned in the
(06/28 15:32:41)  JamieWithHNKey: ‘Myste Online’ articale on Wikepdia!
(06/28 15:33:30)  JamieWithHNKey: Any other questionts?
(06/28 15:34:14)  JamieWithHNKey: i gues not

And now its time for my big announcement! My third text-adventure will start July 1st ,2014! It will include the following features:
- An advanced moral system, in which you must find the ‘best way’ to do something, not just ‘push 1 to be rude, push 2 to be kind’.
-Boopies (currency) will actually have an in-game use.
- There will be 2 or 3 events on ‘The Gehn Shard’ (so you might want to sign up for an account on the shard.)
- The story will be a bit darker/deeper.
Also I have vague plans for 2 more adventures! I hope to see you on the forums!
Here are the threads I talked about:
Memorable Thread Collection – http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=339918#p339918

Is It More Yet? -http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16404

Ki toons – http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4312

Surprise in Minkata - http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13155&highlight=minkata

Myst: the comedy text-adventure: http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=26086

Next HN

The next Heritage Night on memorable forum thread from MOULa/MOUL will be Saturday, the 28th at 13 Ki time(in the Heritage Night hood.). See you then! I will be talking about this at today’s AGM, if they are any threads you think I should cover let me know ‘in person’ after the AGM. You can also PM me on the forums.

NOTE: This will NOT just be a repeat of the ‘memorable threads’ thread but some of my personal favoirits. I will also talk about Myst The Commidy Text advenuter and how it came to be. It was influnced by 3 forum threads, can you guess which ones?(if you can keep it to yourself so others can guess).

Hertiage Nihgt V Part II

Here is the chatlog from the chat on Gehn:

(05/18 15:32:50) Chat.log started…
(05/18 15:36:59)  Zeke365: I was wondering something is it possible to have this graphic level incorapted into MOULa cause I think it would give MOUla a nice facelift even if no new content is added?
(05/18 15:37:09)  Whilyam: Greetings.
(05/18 15:37:40)  Whilyam: Yeah, we need a high res texture pack for this Minecraft server, Hoikas
(05/18 15:37:55)  Adam {Hoikas}: [trollface.jpg]
(05/18 15:38:08)  jamie: the graphics level?
(05/18 15:38:21)  Alryn: Hi
(05/18 15:38:37)  jamie: It’s possible to put any changes on this shard into MOULa, how much work is involved is anouther question.
(05/18 15:38:50)  jamie: *from this shard
(05/18 15:39:27)  jamie: Cyan also has to approve and have time to put into MOULa
(05/18 15:39:35)  jamie: You could also report it to Adam

(05/18 15:40:54)  Zeke365: why do you like the ghen shard Jamie some reasons that might surpurise us?
(05/18 15:41:53)  jamie: The Gehn shard has the newest/grest toys without being silly like TOC
(05/18 15:42:09)  Whilyam: TOC?
(05/18 15:42:28)  jamie: like the text changing colours for PMs, proper widecreen and high quitly fan ages :)
(05/18 15:42:32)  jamie: The Open Cave
(05/18 15:42:43)  Acorn: but Jamie you might switch loyalties to DIRT I see from the chatlog yesterday
(05/18 15:43:05)  Zeke365: yes I really want to see DIRT shard

(05/18 15:43:06)  radioflux: ooh I do have a question
(05/18 15:43:44)  radioflux: are there any plans to get the Gahreesen wall working here?
(05/18 15:44:00)  jamie: That a question for Adam
(05/18 15:44:04)  janaba: TOC is MOSS based like OpenUru’s Minkata I believe
(05/18 15:44:22)  jamie: It might be, though the server backend does not make a whole lot of diffence
(05/18 15:44:30)  Adam {Hoikas}: there are vague plans regarding the wall
(05/18 15:44:40)  radioflux: hehe
(05/18 15:45:00)  Adam {Hoikas}: We looked at what TOC did and read a lot of the feedback and decided we needed to spend some time squashing bugs before unleashing it here
(05/18 15:45:05)  Whilyam: Vague are your only kinds of plans. :P
(05/18 15:45:07)  jamie: I prefer the H-URU server since I can acctually get it to run and it’s simpler
(05/18 15:45:12)  Adam {Hoikas}: that hasn’t happened quite yet
(05/18 15:45:25)  Adam {Hoikas}: =P
(05/18 15:45:36)  radioflux: yeah, the only good plan is a vague plan
(05/18 15:45:37)  Acorn: while we’re talkiig of fan clubs, janaba and I are fans of Elodea – mighht it come to Gehn?
(05/18 15:45:47)  Whilyam: brb, need to unstick myself
(05/18 15:45:48)  Zeke365: so it goes TOC to Ghen to Miknna, to MOULa
(05/18 15:46:05)  jamie: I wouden’t say that
(05/18 15:46:06)  Whilyam (I’m on the surface, be back in a minute):  
(05/18 15:46:35) Adam {Hoikas} thinks a minute
(05/18 15:46:58)  Zeke365: I have played around on deep island shard a little bit could you tell us how that came to be?
(05/18 15:47:07)  janaba: The Wall on TOC works but has many bugs still, yes
(05/18 15:47:46)  radioflux: the TOC wall is not exaclty ready for release, no
(05/18 15:47:47)  Adam {Hoikas}: Elodea is a nice age in that it actually gives folks something to do–it’s not quite polished to the level I’m looking for though. We’re going to be hosting an event in the near future about that topic, actually
(05/18 15:47:59)  janaba: new stuff to consider goes to Minkata to be tested and then e v e n t a l l y  mayyybeeee to MOULa lol
(05/18 15:48:01)  jamie: Cool :)
(05/18 15:48:10)  janaba: eventually
(05/18 15:48:31)  jamie: Adam would be able to more correctly answer your deep island question then I would
(05/18 15:48:31)  Adam {Hoikas}: if someone wants to spend the effort to move it over to Minkata ;)
(05/18 15:48:48)  Adam {Hoikas}: Deep Island…
(05/18 15:49:15)  Adam {Hoikas}: it started up between MOUL closing and MOULa opening
(05/18 15:49:18)  janaba: ohh, poor Deledrius lol
(05/18 15:49:43)  janaba: I wouldn’t want to convert and polish the Elodea universe lol
(05/18 15:49:44)  Adam {Hoikas}: at the time, the only public way to play Uru online was on a shard run by an unscrupulous individual
(05/18 15:49:51)  Acorn: yes,there were lots of people saying that visually Elodea wasn’t up to scratch so i’m not surprised at your answer, Adam, but polishing it would presumably be a huge task..
(05/18 15:50:30)  Adam {Hoikas}: so diafero came to me with the idea for Deep Island–it would host all the fan ages and be available for anyone who registered on the GoW forum
(05/18 15:50:35)  jamie: Lets let Adam finsih his deep island thing before fludding the screen with text
(05/18 15:50:59)  Adam {Hoikas}: I was glad that I wouldn’t be the one doing the work, and promptly rubber-stamped it =P
(05/18 15:51:32)  janaba: I’d say just the conversion of those immensly huge ages (4 actually) is already an arduous task, oh my :-)
(05/18 15:52:02)  Zeke365: One thing that always has confused me is this shard runs off MOUla shard yet is different server does that mean its another branch from the main server/
(05/18 15:52:19)  Adam {Hoikas}: it gets easier every time–the GoMePub is basically ready to go, there are just a few bugs…
(05/18 15:52:29)  Acorn: oooh!
(05/18 15:52:31)  janaba: lol
(05/18 15:52:43)  janaba: awesome :-)
(05/18 15:52:45)  Zeke365: nice squah those bugs
(05/18 15:53:02)  jamie: the current MOUL shards servers are totaly unrelated
(05/18 15:53:14)  Adam {Hoikas}: Zeke365, we really only depend on the MOULa game data (ages) because it’s not exactly legal for us to let you download that from us
(05/18 15:53:36)  jamie: So if MOULa(the cyan shard) went down right now, it would not effect us.
(05/18 15:53:58)  Zeke365: okay
(05/18 15:54:27)  jamie: The hope is that someday you won’t have to copy data from one shard to anouther to make it work, but that involes get promistion from Cyan which like other things is being worked on…
(05/18 15:54:39)  janaba: That’s really great isn’t it?
(05/18 15:54:50)  janaba: that sounds like independence :-)
(05/18 15:55:05)  Adam {Hoikas}: the new installer sort of makes it easy, but there are bugs (of course >.<)
(05/18 15:55:42)  Acorn: is it true that you pay for the server yourself, Adam – you don’t seem to ask for donations…..
(05/18 15:56:01)  Adam {Hoikas}: right, the shard, forum, wiki, etc all run on the same server
(05/18 15:56:52)  janaba: in case MOULa would really go down resp. being taken one day will ewxplorers be allowed to further on use the MOULs data, is that part of being Open Source? or would there have to be other new agreements to be contracted or so?
(05/18 15:57:04)  janaba: hahaha Whilyam
(05/18 15:57:49)  janaba: but it’s really awesome that those shards are really self contained and maintained etc. :-)
(05/18 15:57:56)  Adam {Hoikas}: if MOULa were to go down permanently, we would probably ship the files anyway and hope no one cries too much
(05/18 15:58:09)  Zeke365: which brings me to another question in open source you said cyan only realased part of it are we waiting for the open source to be opened fully?
(05/18 15:58:22)  janaba: yeah, ok, like that Adam :-)
(05/18 15:58:37)  Adam {Hoikas}: all of the code is open source, and we’ve got everything we’re going to get there
(05/18 15:58:50)  janaba: inofficially Cyan would agree, officially maybe not, depends on their dependences I suppose lol
(05/18 15:59:03)  Adam {Hoikas}: the content (ages, such as Relto and Teledahn) are not open sourced
(05/18 15:59:16)  Zeke365: would cyan ever deny a fan age?
(05/18 15:59:33)  Adam {Hoikas}: what we are working towards is permission to be able to “ship” that content on our own shards
(05/18 15:59:33)  janaba: dependencies … I write too fast lol
(05/18 15:59:34) From Acorn: that might work, yes
(05/18 15:59:38)  Zeke365: because there canon right
(05/18 15:59:45)  Adam {Hoikas}: I don’t know what Cyan would or wouldn’t do
(05/18 16:00:45)  Adam {Hoikas}: I do know that if you can get on Gehn, Cyan shouldn’t be able to find much content-wise to prevent you from being on MOULa
(05/18 16:00:47)  janaba: yeah, the independant redistribution, that’s important and would make everything easier for all involved
(05/18 16:03:07)  Zeke365: I was wonder in the mikkinta shard how many fans do you have testing on it other than Mach, adam, and others?
(05/18 16:03:41)  jamie: I don’t know you would have to speak to one of the admins
(05/18 16:03:53)  janaba: ohh, there are some more like me, Acorn, Tai’lahr, Christian, Mac_Fife etc. etc. :-)
(05/18 16:04:00)  jamie: I think they are at least 50 people signed up, since that many people showed up to a party once.
(05/18 16:04:11)  jamie: Me!
(05/18 16:04:11)  Acorn: anyone can plan on minkata and test it that way, if that’s what you mean Zeke
(05/18 16:04:12)  janaba: right
(05/18 16:04:19)  Acorn: *play
(05/18 16:04:28)  Adam {Hoikas}: we have 1094 active avatars
(05/18 16:04:33)  radioflux: I’m signed up, but don’t have a working install now
(05/18 16:04:37)  jamie: on minkata?
(05/18 16:04:41)  Adam {Hoikas}: on Gehn
(05/18 16:04:46)  jamie: cool :)
(05/18 16:04:53)  Zeke365: I just go back and forth on it
(05/18 16:05:00)  janaba: yeah, the more the merrier :-)
(05/18 16:05:57)  Zeke365: cause those feathers would something in the future moula so do I want to spoil myself but then again it another way to help the community
(05/18 16:07:10)  jamie: Are they any other questionts?
(05/18 16:07:32)  Zeke365: well all have questions after we leave
(05/18 16:07:38)  radioflux: how many fan ages are there on Gehn?
(05/18 16:07:43)  janaba: awww
(05/18 16:07:52)  jamie: three I think.
(05/18 16:08:00)  Acorn: what’s the best guess for when Gehn 20 will arrive?
(05/18 16:08:08)  Adam {Hoikas}: 3 now, 4 soon
(05/18 16:08:15)  janaba: ;-)
(05/18 16:08:19)  radioflux: nice
(05/18 16:08:27)  Adam {Hoikas}: I have Gehn 20 pencilled in for June 5th
(05/18 16:08:36)  jamie: Cool!
(05/18 16:08:40)  janaba: great!!!!
(05/18 16:08:50)  Acorn: lovely!
(05/18 16:09:08)  Zeke365: so will you be doing a guild of writer rework simuliar to what the GOM pub is doing?
(05/18 16:09:08)  Adam {Hoikas}: and just glancing at all of the changes, it promises to be another 3 hour update =P
(05/18 16:09:24)  Acorn: livetream?
(05/18 16:09:31)  Acorn: *tream
(05/18 16:09:32)  Adam {Hoikas}: Tweek is working on one in his spare time
(05/18 16:09:43)  Zeke365: good thing I have a fast compiuter
(05/18 16:09:49)  Acorn: *stream
(05/18 16:09:58)  janaba: on a livestream? Tweek I mean
(05/18 16:10:02)  Adam {Hoikas}: I was thinking about doing a livestream. There are a lot of moving parts in this update, so I’m probably going to need to have Deledrius on a hangout ;)
(05/18 16:10:18)  Adam {Hoikas}: Tweek is working on a new Writers’ Pub
(05/18 16:10:31)  Zeke365: what is the google hangout seems to be the new thing
(05/18 16:10:51)  janaba: ahh, yes, of course he’s working on the pub
(05/18 16:10:53)  Zeke365: that and twitch TV
(05/18 16:10:59)  janaba: and it looks great already
(05/18 16:11:12)  jamie: It appears to be Google’s verstion of Skype
(05/18 16:11:20)  Adam {Hoikas}: wait until you see the GoMePub ;)
(05/18 16:11:30)  Zeke365: so are all the pubs going to be redone to look differnt from one another?
(05/18 16:11:31)  janaba: He’s celebrating his birthday on the 30th of Maybtw, Tweek I mean :-)
(05/18 16:11:34)  radioflux: the best writing gets done in pubs
(05/18 16:12:11)  janaba: hihi
(05/18 16:12:37)  Adam {Hoikas}: I doubt it–Doobes wanted a new GoMePub, and Tweek hates the fact that all of the Pubs are clones, but they’re just interested in fixing their own pubs for now
(05/18 16:13:35)  janaba: yes that’s enough of work to be done already lol and is a great start to be sure :-)
(05/18 16:15:47)  Zeke365: so what is your vison for the ghen shard adam that people will take away with them?
(05/18 16:16:06)  janaba: good and nice question
(05/18 16:16:45)  Adam {Hoikas}: what we’re trying to do is slowly polish and make Uru better (less bugs, better performance, more shinies, etc)
(05/18 16:17:11)  Zeke365: then someday incorpate into MOULa
(05/18 16:17:20)  Adam {Hoikas}: we’re not too interested at throwing the kitchen sink at the wall and seeing what sticks
(05/18 16:17:31)  Adam {Hoikas}: if someone wants to take the time to move things over to MOULa ;)
(05/18 16:17:32)  janaba: lol
(05/18 16:18:02)  Adam {Hoikas}: (background: when I first started playing URU, there were twenty shards…)
(05/18 16:18:37)  Zeke365: would love to see that but condsidering I no programer but I can least try to learn the ins and outs
(05/18 16:18:42)  jamie: I should warn you as Gehn(and H-URU) get father and father from MOULa/Minkia moveing things from one to the other wil lget harder
(05/18 16:19:49)  janaba: I’d say I should be considered as a priviledge for MOULa to have the shard owners and programers etc. doing all the work and providing everything for free :-)
(05/18 16:19:57)  Adam {Hoikas}: by the time Minkata was up and ready to accept changes, it was already hard. it’s gone from “hard” to “potentially very, very difficult or nearly impossible”
(05/18 16:20:31)  Adam {Hoikas}: unless you have endless patience (which I don’t have =P)
(05/18 16:20:32)  janaba: it should be considered
(05/18 16:20:45)  jamie: Right! since Minkia is still ‘locked down’ issent it?
(05/18 16:21:06)  Adam {Hoikas}: I think they’re accepting changes again, but no one has submitted any
(05/18 16:21:30)  Zeke365: the reason is because as right now MOULa looks a little aged no pun intended and if MOUla was upgraded to this quailty it might interst people and give moula a facelift it truly needs
(05/18 16:21:40)  jamie: Probally since it’s more interesting too work with H-URU(and easeir)
(05/18 16:21:46)  Adam {Hoikas}: meanwhile, most of what we’re doing is like putting the top on a pyramid–a pyramid that doesn’t even exist on MOULa
(05/18 16:22:12)  jamie: Good analogy
(05/18 16:22:30)  janaba: yep :-)
– I asked Adam a question ‘off the record’ here. –
(05/18 16:32:43)  Zeke365: if you were not at the international hood meeting I heard greydragon say there they have other projects other than obuduction and MOula
(05/18 16:33:04)  Adam {Hoikas}: yeah, they have some interesting things baking
(05/18 16:33:22)  Acorn: can you tell us?
(05/18 16:33:37)  Zeke365: wonder how long its been cooking and when they be able to pull out of the oven?
(05/18 16:33:50)  janaba: no he wasn’t specific, just teasing us lol
(05/18 16:34:11)  radioflux: I have a feeling it would unwise to hold your breath, though
(05/18 16:34:16)  Adam {Hoikas}: well, you know there are a lot of irons in the fire what with Sevkor and that sort of deal
(05/18 16:34:23)  Zeke365: sort of like a teaser trailer for the community
(05/18 16:34:59)  Zeke365: where does sevkor come from anywahse?
(05/18 16:35:05)  Acorn: Sevkor has been nearly there for so long!
(05/18 16:35:32)  Adam {Hoikas}: matthornb has been working on it in blender
(05/18 16:35:44)  janaba: matthornb is working on it, in collaboration with Karkadann
(05/18 16:36:01)  janaba: he’s uploaded some videos and pictures at least
(05/18 16:36:08)  janaba: and posted
(05/18 16:37:00)  janaba: itm seems to be quite huge from the dimensions you can see so far and it looked good so far
(05/18 16:37:23)  Zeke365: sometime I wished I had spent more time studing gemoerty in school
(05/18 16:37:49)  Acorn: Karkadann hasn’t posted about it – has he really got to work on it yet?
(05/18 16:38:00)  janaba: it looked as if much work went into it, very detailed, don’t ask me for quality and lighting etc, for that you are the specialists :-)
(05/18 16:38:02)  Adam {Hoikas}: AFAIK he hasn’t received anything
(05/18 16:38:12)  Acorn: hmmm
(05/18 16:38:44)  radioflux: he did ask for nominations for fan ages, though
(05/18 16:39:08)  janaba: yeah, he always asks some of those questions lol
(05/18 16:39:14)  Acorn: but he’s working on backgammon!
(05/18 16:39:18)  Zeke365: I have been on deep island shard and have studied how the fan ages were done and have a few ideas of me own
(05/18 16:39:47)  jamie: Looks like Adam crashed
(05/18 16:39:51)  radioflux: yup
(05/18 16:40:01)  jamie: Any other questionts?
(05/18 16:40:09)  janaba: oh, Adam logged out or poofed?
(05/18 16:40:14)  Zeke365: when the next heratige night?
(05/18 16:40:18)  Acorn: this has been fun, jamie!
(05/18 16:40:44)  Acorn: he’s back
(05/18 16:40:50)  jamie: I don’t know, I usally plan the next one at the end of the month
(05/18 16:41:02)  janaba: oh, yes, I think that was a great, informative and fun session, Jamie :-)
(05/18 16:41:22)  Acorn: what’s the next topic?
(05/18 16:41:24) jamie is typing
(05/18 16:41:44)  jamie: I’m not sure atm
(05/18 16:42:03)  janaba: ohh, you did so many already, take your time Jamie :-)
(05/18 16:42:12)  janaba: wb Adam :-)
(05/18 16:42:21)  Adam {Hoikas}: ty
(05/18 16:42:40)  jamie: Oh yes! I remember! the next Hertiage Night night will be on famous forum threads
(05/18 16:42:53)  janaba: we’re almost at the end and I’ve said it was a fun and informative session, thanks to you Jamie, Adam and all else :-)
(05/18 16:42:55) janaba cheers
(05/18 16:42:58)  jamie: including some MOUL(2007) ones like ‘Suprice in Minkinia)
(05/18 16:43:03) Acorn cheers
(05/18 16:43:06)  Adam {Hoikas}: =P
(05/18 16:43:13) Adam {Hoikas} vaguely remembers that one
(05/18 16:43:26)  janaba: hihi, on famous forum threads … yeah!!!
(05/18 16:43:28)  Adam {Hoikas}: you should do “Ending the Nonsense” as well [trollface.jpg]
(05/18 16:43:37)  Acorn: which forums are you covering, Jamie?
(05/18 16:43:45)  radioflux: Heritage Night goes meta?
(05/18 16:44:10) janaba roars with laughter
(05/18 16:44:11)  jamie: It has allready, since the last 2 meeting where OOC
(05/18 16:44:13)  Zeke365: well I gotta go see ya all later
(05/18 16:44:22)  Adam {Hoikas}: has teh funs
(05/18 16:44:25)  Acorn: bye Zeke
(05/18 16:44:30)  radioflux: bye zeke
(05/18 16:44:35)  Alryn: bye
(05/18 16:44:36)  jamie: bye
(05/18 16:44:43)  radioflux: I hae to go to, btw
(05/18 16:44:51)  jamie: bye radioflux
(05/18 16:44:52)  janaba: bye bye Zeke :-)
(05/18 16:44:55)  radioflux: time flies etc
(05/18 16:45:00)  jamie: here gone allready
(05/18 16:45:04)  Acorn: bye, Radioflux
(05/18 16:45:12)  radioflux: thanks Jamie and Adam
(05/18 16:45:18)  janaba: bye radioflux :-)
(05/18 16:45:20)  radioflux: bye
(05/18 16:45:29)  jamie: no problem radioflux
(05/18 16:45:29)  radioflux (I’m on the surface, be back in a minute):  
(05/18 16:45:33)  Alryn: thank you all
(05/18 16:45:43)  jamie: Well I gues this is the end then
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