There has been a lot of stuff happening in Cavern lately and I would like to take this Heritage Night to talk about such things.
The most obvious thing that has happened is the recent ‘vault wipe’ in which all player information was lost. This is a sad blow for all those affected, especially those with a large amount of history with the game.
This isn’t the first time such a thing has happened and long-time explorers will remember that all account data was lost when the GameTap (2007) MOUla was closed down. Some of the shards have also had ‘vault wipes’ when some reconfiguration was needed.
Cyan learned an important lesson. Cyan had a poor backup plan and never tested their backups (which were corrupt). If they weren’t corrupt, there would still be some loss as Cyan’s latest backups were from a lot earlier in the year.
We can learn something feom Cyan. It’s important to have a good backup system and to make frequent backups. Making sure your backups can be restored is also important. Even if you use your computer very little, things can still go wrong and a backup is better than starting over. If you want to talk more about backups, I will be available after the speech.
Back to the ‘vault wipe’ itself. Fans came up with funny IC explanations to pass the time, including time machines gone wrong and a ‘metaphysical wave‘ sent by a faction of the Bahro War (a fight between Bahro who want us to leave the cavern and those who want to stay). My personal favourite explanation for current events is:
OHB’s arch-nemesis tried to hack the Great Zero into a mind-control device. It backfired and he wiped everyone’s memories, reset the Kis, and reset the ages (somehow) instead.
There is one more separate recent event semi-ignored because of the vault wipe. Before the wipe, Cyan stated that they were working with fans to finally get new content into the game. They originally intended to release this new content at the end of the year. I have heard nothing new on this front recently, but I imagine increased work on the Obduction game and the vault wipe has pushed the project aside a bit. I hope we hear more about this soon.
Before I take questions, the last bit of news is that Cyan has cut a deal with a TV company and a Myst TV show is in the works. You can join the discussion here: http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=27515 and read more here: http://venturebeat.com/2014/10/07/cyan-cuts-deal-with-legendary-to-create-a-tv-series-based-on-myst/
Here is the log for the Q&A part of the event:
(11/16 15:27:07) Chat.log started…
(11/16 15:27:10) CHAKRA: ty… so this ‘tv show’ is it a series or a mini series or one time epidsode?
(11/16 15:27:36) HeritageNightGuy: Hmm I don’t know, let me see
(11/16 15:27:47) HeritageNightGuy goes off to Google the answer
(11/16 15:28:12) Boywhith: It is way too much for I single episode I think.
(11/16 15:28:37) CHAKRA: Also, curious .. Who is the tv company who picked Cyan up>?
(11/16 15:28:37) radioflux: depends on the story they want to tell
(11/16 15:28:51) CHAKRA: depends on money!
(11/16 15:28:53) Zeke365: Lenderay
(11/16 15:28:56) radioflux: Legendary
(11/16 15:29:34) Musica2: Couldn’t the deal be with a production company and they will have to sell it to a TV network?
(11/16 15:29:34) radioflux: but not the movie branch; the TV branch of Legendary
(11/16 15:29:36) Zeke365: i kind of have an idea of how it will work it a transamedia tv show
(11/16 15:29:39) skuavi: first episode early days in dni :)
(11/16 15:29:44) CHAKRA: excuse me? legendary is the name of the tv production company?
(11/16 15:29:55) radioflux: yes
(11/16 15:29:59) Boywhith: I agree CHAKRA. I still wonder if this is a real plan or only a nice thought.
(11/16 15:30:03) CHAKRA: Ok great! and ty
(11/16 15:30:13) skuavi: make the new godzila legendary?
(11/16 15:30:29) HeritageNightGuy: I’m back, I don’t think we know wather it will be mini-serries or full serries or whatever
(11/16 15:30:31) Boywhith: We all know what hapened to that movie plans… nothing!
(11/16 15:30:38) Boywhith: *happened
(11/16 15:30:55) radioflux: yes, so we’ll just have to wait and see
(11/16 15:31:08) HeritageNightGuy: Accoding to Wikepida Cyan had a deal for a Myst TV show back in 2002 that also ‘fell through’
(11/16 15:31:23) CHAKRA: @boywhith…. has potential to make it all the way to ‘airing’ or the project being cancelled for unseen reasons
(11/16 15:31:30) HeritageNightGuy: I wonder how many people would donate for a Myst Movie/TV show kickstarter
(11/16 15:31:31) Zeke365: So with the valt wipe recently do you think that is a good thing or bad thing?
(11/16 15:31:32) Boywhith: You see? That is 12 years ago!
(11/16 15:31:59) CHAKRA: I feel your pain Boywhith LOL
(11/16 15:32:04) radioflux: par for the course with those movie deals
(11/16 15:32:10) CHAKRA: I remember it all too well also.
(11/16 15:32:17) HeritageNightGuy: The vault wipe is a bad thing and it did not help any sever problems either :(
(11/16 15:32:50) Boywhith: and CAVCON is allarming low… 1.4 now.
(11/16 15:32:59) HeritageNightGuy: It is indeed
(11/16 15:33:05) CHAKRA: Well, I hope it comes to fruition and! is a great success, so we can open source this with the abundance of monies the tv show can produce and add new content.
(11/16 15:33:08) Zeke365: But we have had a lot more explores in though the Cavcon really needs to get up there
(11/16 15:33:13) radioflux: Personally, I loved having to do the entire game again
(11/16 15:33:20) HeritageNightGuy: Donating would be a good thing
(11/16 15:33:40) HeritageNightGuy: But there a couple of more importnat things I might want to donate too
(11/16 15:33:45) Jet Blast: I do it
(11/16 15:33:45) Boywhith: yeah in a way it was a good thing to start over again.
(11/16 15:33:52) CHAKRA: I have been thru the prior ‘resets’ so no big deal redoing the Journey.
(11/16 15:33:55) HeritageNightGuy: I wish we had donation insentives
(11/16 15:33:55) skuavi: good evening jet
(11/16 15:33:55) Zeke365: What the best way to to aproch donating without panicking explorers?
(11/16 15:34:33) Boywhith: i think Cyan must again do a Kickstarter campaign.
(11/16 15:34:48) HeritageNightGuy: We need some sort of insentive like OHBs connection imnage
(11/16 15:34:48) CHAKRA: I would suggest Zeke… sharing the donation instructions on the forums that RAWA gives.
(11/16 15:35:03) CHAKRA: Just share the link with others Zeke.
(11/16 15:35:04) Boywhith: and try to collect funds to keep MOULa running for at least 2 years, including…
(11/16 15:35:04) HeritageNightGuy: brb
(11/16 15:35:17) Boywhith: The promise of new cotent.
(11/16 15:35:22) Boywhith: *content.
(11/16 15:35:26) Zeke365: Ya were almost at 5 years
(11/16 15:36:05) CHAKRA: There will always be the promise to fulfill dreams.
(11/16 15:36:13) HeritageNightGuy: Back
(11/16 15:36:20) CHAKRA: Doesn’t mean they will happen overnight tho…..
(11/16 15:36:28) CHAKRA: We ALL have been waiting……
(11/16 15:36:37) CHAKRA: remember…..
(11/16 15:36:44) HeritageNightGuy: We could ask Cyan if an explorer like OHB cfould run a robot
(11/16 15:36:48) CHAKRA: the ending has yet to be written.
(11/16 15:37:07) HeritageNightGuy: Then set up a ‘hal of fame’ hood if you donate over $20 to MOULa you get your name on the hoods imager
(11/16 15:37:07) Zeke365: i have gone back and forth and weather new content is what uru needs yes some but what really needs is its community
(11/16 15:37:14) HeritageNightGuy: This is controlled by the roboto
(11/16 15:37:20) CHAKRA: We have a lot of robots in the cavern now…. just sayin’
(11/16 15:37:31) Jet Blast: Ok,Igive 10 more yet
(11/16 15:37:35) HeritageNightGuy: Robots are useufl
(11/16 15:37:39) Jet Blast: Brb
(11/16 15:37:41) Zeke365: Would that event cost even more
(11/16 15:37:48) Boywhith: hehehe… I like a statute for $200 !
(11/16 15:37:55) CHAKRA: robots can be useful…. and glitchy too
(11/16 15:38:05) HeritageNightGuy: We can’t do anything that will cost Cyan money
(11/16 15:38:08) CHAKRA: LOL@boy
(11/16 15:38:24) HeritageNightGuy: But you could donate to MOULa and get a statue on the gehn shard if the admins where ok with that
(11/16 15:38:46) HeritageNightGuy: Adding content to MOULa will cost Cyan money
(11/16 15:39:10) HeritageNightGuy: I think we need to run a PBS style capain!
(11/16 15:39:20) Boywhith: i am not a fan of those shards… The nice things there…
(11/16 15:39:23) Zeke365: Last noevmenber we hit 4.9
(11/16 15:39:30) Boywhith: Must be intergrated into MOULa.
(11/16 15:40:02) HeritageNightGuy: The game is rather limmited in what we can do with it
(11/16 15:40:06) CHAKRA: Last Nov. the login numbers were almost double too.
(11/16 15:40:12) CHAKRA: Numbers have fallen ….
(11/16 15:40:18) HeritageNightGuy: Interesting
(11/16 15:40:31) HeritageNightGuy: Well there might be worse next month with holidays :(
(11/16 15:40:33) Zeke365: Throuh limitaions come creativity
(11/16 15:40:38) CHAKRA: Which means …. we need to donate double!
(11/16 15:40:56) Zeke365: i will as soon as I can
(11/16 15:41:02) CHAKRA: I was here when the cavern closed down due to lack of funding.
(11/16 15:41:09) CHAKRA: It was terribly sad day.
(11/16 15:41:27) Musica2: Yes, it was sad
(11/16 15:41:31) Zeke365: it amazing this community keeps poping up
(11/16 15:41:34) Boywhith: not to say, a disaster! :(((
(11/16 15:41:49) CHAKRA: Cate quit and we lost the one person who was in charge of seeking funding.
(11/16 15:42:28) CHAKRA: The DRC had all returned to the surface or quit. We basically were left on our own.
(11/16 15:42:39) Zeke365: i m looking forward to DIRT project as well
(11/16 15:42:56) CHAKRA: After Ensberg’s daughter died,…. things started falling apart in the cavern.
(11/16 15:43:06) Zeke365: Expect for a few reseng
(11/16 15:43:09) HeritageNightGuy: I’m offstage now since I’m now an equal vs (in-carge)
(11/16 15:43:29) From CHAKRA: kool
(11/16 15:43:33) Musica2: That wasn’t in the script
(11/16 15:44:00) CHAKRA: This tv thingie that’s ‘in the works’ could be what saves the cavern.
(11/16 15:44:31) CHAKRA: If it doesn’t suceed…. well, it’s up to the (us) explorers to keep the journey alive.
(11/16 15:44:43) HeritageNightGuy: Cyan’s for profit work does not mix with it’s private work and even has it’s own bank account
(11/16 15:45:10) CHAKRA: Cyan worlds you mean?
(11/16 15:45:20) CHAKRA: which cyan?
(11/16 15:45:31) HeritageNightGuy: Same company diffrent time in it’s life
(11/16 15:45:44) CHAKRA: sister company
(11/16 15:46:08) skuavi looks around for a bit
(11/16 15:46:15) Zeke365: Listen everyone should have gotten a ki mail telling the time of appreaction party which you can show your appreaction there and that will be sent to cyan
(11/16 15:46:17) CHAKRA: I thought there was going to be a Heritage tour today?
(11/16 15:46:19) HeritageNightGuy: I still say we need instives to donate(or at lest I do)
(11/16 15:46:33) CHAKRA: instives?
(11/16 15:46:38) CHAKRA: what is that?
(11/16 15:46:42) spatialkay: incentivew
(11/16 15:46:49) CHAKRA: incentives
(11/16 15:46:49) spatialkay: incentives
(11/16 15:46:56) HeritageNightGuy: incentives
(11/16 15:46:57) skuavi: incentivos
(11/16 15:47:08) HeritageNightGuy: Like OHBs thing
(11/16 15:47:34) HeritageNightGuy: Or getting your name in a fan-fic or on an imager somewhere
(11/16 15:47:50) Boywhith: we need transparancy. Whe we donate now, it is like trowing money in a dark pit.
(11/16 15:48:21) Zeke365: I do the Cavern Tours on tuseday nights at 22:00ki time and Larry does one saturday at 9:00ki time
(11/16 15:48:48) HeritageNightGuy: Or something really cool to do that makes people think.. oh wow I want to keep playing that game
(11/16 15:48:52) CHAKRA: Wish I could attend your Zeke, but too late for me.
(11/16 15:49:04) HeritageNightGuy: I have the same problem
(11/16 15:49:13) radioflux: The Saturday tours are great as well
(11/16 15:49:16) Zeke365: then you go to larry right
(11/16 15:49:25) HeritageNightGuy: You know I could probally a tour myself but I don’t know what to say
(11/16 15:49:31) CHAKRA: I did attend Larry’s thought… and had a lot of fun!
(11/16 15:49:57) HeritageNightGuy: I could do a sort of LP though the ages if that intrests anyone
(11/16 15:50:04) HeritageNightGuy: *through
(11/16 15:50:06) skuavi: wb patricio
(11/16 15:50:14) Zeke365: LP?
(11/16 15:50:23) Patricio: Hola sku.
(11/16 15:50:24) radioflux: or CD?
(11/16 15:50:27) CHAKRA: live presentation?
(11/16 15:50:31) HeritageNightGuy: Let’s Play/Long Play
(11/16 15:50:37) CHAKRA: ohhhhhhhh
(11/16 15:50:41) Boywhith: MP3… lol
(11/16 15:50:43) skuavi: mp3
(11/16 15:50:46) Musica2: The Radio Free D’NI guys are broadcasting next Sunady and having a donation time after
(11/16 15:51:01) Zeke365: that something I condsidered but rejected it maybe a trailer at least
(11/16 15:51:02) radioflux: Ok, I’m off to donate Right Now
(11/16 15:51:08) CHAKRA dislikes language barriers.
(11/16 15:51:14) radioflux: see you guys around
(11/16 15:51:17) Patricio: My pay pal is all set now!
(11/16 15:51:19) HeritageNightGuy: There is a style of Youtbue video where people commintate over games(called a ‘Let’s Play)
(11/16 15:51:30) HeritageNightGuy: Se you around radioflux
(11/16 15:51:50) CHAKRA: Aren’t there 3 ways to donate?
(11/16 15:51:54) HeritageNightGuy: Annways I could do a tour where I would comminate on things around the ages
(11/16 15:51:58) Zeke365: I know but I think of this way people might just wait for the lets play then coming on the tours
(11/16 15:52:03) CHAKRA: If one doesn’t want to pay the paypal fees?
(11/16 15:52:04) Boywhith: There is alreay a LP MOULa on youtube… 100 movies in total!
(11/16 15:52:21) Boywhith: *already
(11/16 15:52:24) HeritageNightGuy: Yes this would be a live commintary by microphone
(11/16 15:52:27) Zeke365: if you can dontate double do so lets save our little home
(11/16 15:52:39) Jet Blast: ok, a new donation,is done.bye see you soon
(11/16 15:52:49) HeritageNightGuy: See you Jet Blast
(11/16 15:53:06) CHAKRA: wow Jet Blast really IS Jet Blast! hahahahahah
(11/16 15:53:16) Piri 919: yeah
(11/16 15:53:49) HeritageNightGuy: Jet Blast sounds like a nicname for Sonic The Headgehog
(11/16 15:54:02) CHAKRA: HNG…. you in the USA?
(11/16 15:54:29) skuavi: my nick name is like a pokemon?
(11/16 15:54:32) CHAKRA: if so would be nice to have a tour in the middle of Larry and Zeke’s tours… for accessibility
(11/16 15:54:50) HeritageNightGuy: I am Canadian
(11/16 15:54:54) CHAKRA: Larry’s is early morning
(11/16 15:54:54) Zeke365 dont forget to check out some of the events in the Cavem Events hood
(11/16 15:55:00) CHAKRA: Zekes is late
(11/16 15:55:02) spatialkay: honorary yank
(11/16 15:55:10) CHAKRA: what time zone you in HNG?
(11/16 15:55:25) Zeke365: sorry not possible we do not have the man power to that
(11/16 15:55:43) HeritageNightGuy: Easertern Daylight Time(UTC -05:00)
(11/16 15:55:55) Zeke365: 9:00ki time is 11:00am EST
(11/16 15:56:13) CHAKRA: right Zeke
(11/16 15:56:43) HeritageNightGuy: 13 Ki time is 3:00 PM for me
(11/16 15:56:46) CHAKRA: some folks sleep in on Saturday mornings or is there only day to run errands etc
(11/16 15:56:47) Boywhith: So 2 hours later than the KI time. Here it is 8 hours.
(11/16 15:57:13) Zeke365: while back I tried to get a Euprooean community tour together byut it fell threw do to lack of interst
(11/16 15:57:14) CHAKRA: I am +1 KI time
(11/16 15:57:32) CHAKRA: bummer Zeke
(11/16 15:57:57) CHAKRA: you in UK Boy?
(11/16 15:58:12) Zeke365: its more like this people had interst but none wanted to help or wanted to but did not know how
(11/16 15:58:13) Boywhith: No, The Netherlands.
(11/16 15:58:35) CHAKRA: Brrr Boy lol
(11/16 15:58:37) Zeke365: no offensise to anyone
(11/16 15:58:48) CHAKRA: no offense take Zeke :)
(11/16 15:59:13) Zeke365: I hope that explains the situation better
(11/16 15:59:20) CHAKRA: I have planned events years ago and got a lot of positive feedback.. but then at time of event, very few actually showed.
(11/16 15:59:42) Boywhith: Brrr? We have a nice climate.
(11/16 15:59:51) CHAKRA: My ‘Wonderland’ party was my greatest success though.
(11/16 16:00:02) Musica2: Yesterday I hunted for a Delin to go to, but it’
(11/16 16:00:04) Zeke365: Avertiscement is your best soruse AGM, fourms, pming people
(11/16 16:00:12) Musica2: It’s not winter yet
(11/16 16:00:12) CHAKRA: You just never know when you plan an event…..
(11/16 16:00:40) CHAKRA: Miranna’s hood has Delin
(11/16 16:01:08) CHAKRA: yep Zeke… dissemination is key.
(11/16 16:01:20) CHAKRA: It’s snowing here.
(11/16 16:01:34) Zeke365: bur I know what that like
(11/16 16:01:44) Boywhith: We had rain the whole day today, and mild, around 10 degrees.
(11/16 16:01:44) HeritageNightGuy: I’m in the GTA(Otario, Cananda) and it was snowing this morning :(
(11/16 16:02:06) Boywhith: I love snow!
(11/16 16:02:12) CHAKRA: Snow is pretty. As long as you don’ t have to go anywhere. ;’ )
(11/16 16:02:24) Zeke365: snowcones anyone?
(11/16 16:02:31) CHAKRA: lol
(11/16 16:02:31) HeritageNightGuy: It’s still cloady so I fear over the air TV reciption won’t be that good and there is a 2-hour special I hav to watch
(11/16 16:02:52) Myown Evil Twin: i used to like snow, now its just cold and wet
(11/16 16:03:12) Boywhith: So far we have had a record mild year.
(11/16 16:03:33) Zeke365: well I m taking off see ya
(11/16 16:03:55) HeritageNightGuy: Oh my here sounded like he was in watter too me
(11/16 16:04:00) HeritageNightGuy: *he
(11/16 16:04:01) CHAKRA: I guess this is as good a time as any…. PPOOOOFF!!!!
(11/16 16:04:11) HeritageNightGuy: Yes you can leave whenver
(11/16 16:04:11) CHAKRA (I’m on the surface, be back in a minute):
(11/16 16:04:12) Zeke365 (I’m on the surface, be back in a minute):
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